Today's paper | eEdition | Subscribe
The Truth-O-Meter
Latest print edition
St. Petersburg Times
Special report
  • The surrogate
    It begins with a woman who yearns for a baby and another who is willing and able to give her one. You can imagine the motives of the prospective parents. But what about the woman willing to carry a baby, give birth and then walk away?
  • More special reports
Video report
  • Friday Night Rewind
    It doesn't matter which team you cheer for. We've got video previews of every high school football program in Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco and Hernando County.
  • More video reports
Multimedia report
Fill out this form to email this article to a friend
Your name Your email
Recipient email
You may enter up to 20 multiple email addresses, separated by commas.
Your message
Validation Code
Hear
validation
code
  Enter validation code

Rays debate when, not if, to use Kazmir

By John Romano, Times Sports Columnist
In print: Monday, October 13, 2008


Social Bookmarking
Digg Facebook Stumbleupon
Reddit Del.icio.us Newsvine
ADVERTISEMENT

BOSTON — Sometimes, a manager is willing to second-guess himself.

And so it is Sunday evening inside the visitor's clubhouse at Fenway Park.

Joe Maddon walks in, and he walks out. He can't stand to watch, then he can't bear to turn away.

His beloved Arizona Cardinals are in the final seconds of regulation against Dallas, and Maddon seems to be debating whether to watch as the Cowboys line up for a potential tying field goal. The bus outside is ready to go, but Maddon stays in front of the big-screen TV, surrounded by a half-dozen of his players.

The kick is up, and it is good.

Wrong move, Joe.

So maybe Maddon is a tad indecisive in matters of the heart, but the Rays manager has no misgivings when it comes to the Tampa Bay rotation in the American League Championship Series.

No matter what the numbers say, no matter what the critics think, Maddon is sticking with Scott Kazmir in his rotation. In fact, he may even move the left-hander up in the order and start him in Game 5 in Boston.

"His confidence isn't where it needs to be, but I'm not going to waver on that," Maddon said. "I'm not backing down."

Nothing will have a bigger impact on Tampa Bay's World Series dreams than the performance of the starting rotation over the next seven days. And no decision is more critical than the potential starters for Games 5, 6 and 7.

Because of the number of off days built into the ALCS schedule, there is a lot of leeway in a manager's pitching choices. There was even a time when the Rays were considering using James Shields on three days' rest in Game 4, with the idea they could bring him back rested for a potential Game 7.

That possibility went out the window when Shields got locked in a pitcher's duel with Daisuke Matsuzaka in Game 1 on Friday night and eventually threw 100 pitches while working into the eighth inning.

So the new choice is whether to use Shields in Game 5 or hold him until Game 6.

On the surface, it seems silly to think the Rays would delay using their most consistent starter, especially when Kazmir is the alternative.

He may be a two-time All-Star and the franchise's all-time leader in victories, but Kazmir is in a serious funk. After going 8-5 with a 2.84 ERA in the season's first few months, Kazmir is 5-3 with a 4.84 ERA since Aug. 1, including his two postseason starts.

But there are several sound reasons for going with Kazmir in Game 5. First of all, it would move Shields' next start to Tropicana Field, where he is a much better pitcher.

Plus, no ballpark has been more unkind to Shields than Fenway, where he is 0-3 with a 10.12 ERA in his career. Conversely, Kazmir has won more games in Fenway (4-4 with a 3.02 ERA) than any stadium other than Tropicana.

It would also help to have Kazmir pitch Game 5 on Thursday because there is an off day on Friday, which would give the bullpen more time to recover if he has another short outing.

Finally, the home-plate umpire for Game 6 will be Derryl Cousins. Kazmir's season began to unravel shortly after he had a run-in with Cousins in Anaheim, afterward harshly criticizing the veteran umpire's strike zone.

But, even without all the numbers and details, the Rays still believe in Kazmir. For all of his rough outings, Kazmir did not give up a run in three of his final six regular-season starts.

And the bottom line is the Rays are 10-3 in his past 13 starts.

"If he just gets into a groove early, you're going to see him pitch very well. I believe that firmly," Maddon said. "So, yes, I have no qualms about starting Kaz here."

Beyond the Shields/Kazmir decision in Games 5 and 6, the Rays could have another intriguing choice in a potential Game 7. Because of the off days, Matt Garza and Andy Sonnanstine will be fully rested for the series finale. That sets up the possibility that Garza and Sonnanstine are auditioning for Game 7 over the next two days.

The Red Sox have their own rotation issues to consider. Josh Beckett has struggled since straining his oblique muscle in the final week of the regular season, leaving his effectiveness in serious doubt.

So Boston manager Terry Francona must make a decision on Beckett, and whether to bring today's starting pitcher Jon Lester back in Game 6 or save him for a potential Game 7.

"You have to be prepared for the decisions you make to come back and bite you in the (butt)," Rays outfielder Fernando Perez said after Game 2. "Both managers are under tremendous pressure."

As for Maddon, he seems entirely comfortable in his choices.

With players teasing him about the Cardinals blowing the lead against the Cowboys in Sunday's NFL game, Maddon walked out of the clubhouse with a smile on his face.

By the way, Arizona came back to win in overtime.

John Romano can be reached at romano@sptimes.com



[Last modified: Oct 15, 2008 10:55 AM]



Comments on this article
by Paul Oct 15, 2008 10:55 AM
Use David Price instead. Kazmir no longer knows how to pitch. No consistent well-placed fastball, no slider, no confidence.
by Gene Oct 13, 2008 3:34 PM
he has to stay with Kaz. Kaz has shown he can pitch on this level, EJ has not. Kaz, at his best, was a slow starter so going to the pen is out. Everyone is tired this time of year, Joe is building his confidence, which is his job. Go Rays!
by Aaron Oct 13, 2008 2:17 PM
I will start Kaz, but you better believe if he starts the same BS by the 3rd inning, I will have Jackson and Price ready to take over from the 3rd to the 7th inning.
by 9equals8.com Oct 13, 2008 2:17 PM
Kazmir in Game 5 makes a lot of sense to me. He's clearly comfortable there based on his past and a change of scenary could be good for him. It also depends on who pitches for the Sox. Shields vs. Lester is not as good as Shields vs Dice or Beckett.
by Matt Oct 13, 2008 2:14 PM
Lets face it the 3-0 swing was the only call Joe could make, they could not hit Friday night, one swing and they are leading. Only thing I would have done was try to bunt Crawford home down 1-0 men on first and third no outs on Friday night
by Tim Oct 13, 2008 2:13 PM
As bad as Kaz has been why not give Jackson a shot ?? If he blows up take him out .. I mean really .. can he any worse than Kaz ??
by G-Bo Oct 13, 2008 2:13 PM
I said it before and I will say it again, Kaz has lost his confidence, and his performance is reflecting that. Its time to let David Price loose. He has the stuff and the confidence. Kaz can still come through big from the pen. GO RAYS!
by jackie o Oct 13, 2008 2:13 PM
Start Jackson-- Kaz is developing a head case ala Seth McClung and it's most apparent at the beginning the game.
by Brian Oct 13, 2008 2:10 PM
Sorry I disagree with Coach Joe. Kaz cannot get started in the first inning creating all kinds of problems. The ALCS is no time to be working out of a funk. Right now he is maybe our 4th best starter. Use Price instead-cannot be any worse. GO RAYS!
by Ray Oct 13, 2008 2:07 PM
It's not only his confidence Maddon.It is also his elbow.It is not at full strength.Scouts say his fastball MPH is down 3-4 and his slider is very flat.He is also throwing far too many hittable pitches in the middle of the plate.Take him out Joe.
by Kevin Oct 13, 2008 2:06 PM
Let's face it. No one is closer to the Kazmir issue than Joe Maddon. Since he's confident Kaz will give him a quality start Joe is doing the right thing by telling the world earlier rather than later Kaz will get the ball. Let's go Rays!
by JSP Oct 13, 2008 1:24 PM
The decision about Shields should have been made before the LCS started, now the Rays will be messing with the days off of young pitchers who are already are pitching later into the season than ever! Not worth damage to arms to change it all now...
by CharlieRay Oct 13, 2008 1:17 PM
I'd give Price a GO
by Tone Oct 13, 2008 12:56 PM
The ump's strike zone was shifting for both teams which hurt both teams. I think that helped cause most of the homeruns since both pitchers had to keep it right over the plate to get a strike. Kaz had strikes taken away as did Masterson. Damn umps.
by Tone Oct 13, 2008 12:45 PM
I think Maddon managed both games poorly, and I know most people will say that if it all had worked out that I'd be saying he's a genius. But there were so many bad calls like swinging at 3-0 and using bullpen in a silly order/leaving Kaz too long.
Subscribe to the Times
Click here for daily delivery
of the St. Petersburg Times.

Email Newsletters

ADVERTISEMENT

 
ADVERTISEMENT