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For the past 15 years, Virgil Sweet usually knew what to expect when his annual season ticket invoice arrived from the Buccaneers.
There would be a small rise in the price of his seats. Standard stuff, he figured.
Never had Sweet of Belleair Bluffs felt the kind of sticker shock that jolted him like this year's 30 percent increase.
"We've always had an increase," he said. "But up until this year, the increase hasn't been nearly this dramatic. This has to be the biggest increase ever. They sure picked a bad economic time to do this."
His two seats in Section 218 of Raymond James Stadium went from $76 to $99 each, making it a $460 increase this season for eight regular-season and two preseason games. Sweet said his financial situation would permit him to renew. But his strong convictions on the subject did not.
"I gave this a lot of thought," said the semiretired Realtor. "But it truly wasn't a matter of money at all. It was about principle."
Others say they were priced out, which is to say the decision was made for them. Regardless, the increases have been met by opposition from many longtime ticket holders. Some general seating has increased as much 33 percent. Most lower-bowl seats are $99 — $23 per game more than in 2007, when the tickets already were among the most expensive in the NFL.
Further complicating the matter are the expirations of thousands of charter season ticket holder contracts, agreements signed before the opening of RJS in 1998. Those who elect not to renew will receive the remainder of their deposits, which for some fans is substantial depending on the number of seats purchased.
Whatever their ultimate decisions, season ticket holders agree it was a painful choice.
Scott Ross of Tarpon Springs attended the franchise's first game and chose to renew his two 45-yard line seats, but not without much deliberation.
"I could spend my money a lot smarter than this paying off my credit cards," he said. "But I couldn't do it. Once you get off the merry-go-round, you'll probably never get back on. I just remember hearing about all those fans in Green Bay who have been waiting for tickets since the '60s. I don't want to be like that. & But I'll say it's starting to really add up."
Bill English of Bradenton renewed and said, "No one's holding a gun to people's heads. You have to make the choice."
The Bucs are pinning their hopes on fans such as Ross and English. As of last year, the team claimed a waiting list in excess of 100,000 requests.
The Bucs won't disclose how many season ticket holders failed to renew by March 6 — when the first installment was due — but it's clear a number of fans are voicing their displeasure. Some say they have fired off critical letters and e-mails, with others making repeated phone calls to protest.
Bill Cooper of Oldsmar did not renew his four tickets because, "I'm sick of paying (full price) for preseason games. You see the starters for one quarter and then it's our bums versus their bums. And you know what? I want my deposit back. It was promised to me."
That has been a sticking point for many of the stadium's original season ticket holders. The team is not refunding deposits to those who renew, even if their 10-year commitments have expired. Instead, it will continue to refund the money in increments of 5 percent per year while requiring new three-year commitments.
The Bucs aren't alone in their decision to raise prices, said Marc Ganis, president of Chicago sports consulting firm Sportscorp Ltd.: "What's happening in Tampa is happening in a lot of other cities."
But the Bucs' increases are higher than most.
The Bears, for example, announced increases of $3 to $4 on non-club level seating last month. The Lions announced increases of more than 18 percent, but in 2007 they had the league's eighth-cheapest average, according to a study by marketing firm Team Marketing Report. That same study said the Bucs had the eighth-highest average, $72.44. They are likely to rank higher in 2008.
Ganis said owners are making less profit with the current collective bargaining agreement, under which there has been a sharp rise in player salaries.
Air Force retiree Dick Bigelow of Valrico has little sympathy for the richest sports league in the world, with the average team worth some $957-million, according to Forbes.com. He spent his ticket money on a 46-inch LCD television after weathering increases for six consecutive years.
"Enough is enough," he said.
Around the NFL
DENVER — Titans running back LenDale White was cited with destruction of property, disobedience to a lawful order/interference and resistance.
Police spokeswoman Sharon Hahn said Sunday that the 23-year-old Denver native was cited shortly after 2 a.m. Saturday. She didn't have details of what led to the citation, which was first reported by KUSA-TV.
White was cited near a downtown club that was throwing a party in his honor Friday night. He had a team-best 1,110 yards rushing last season for Tennessee.
TEXANS: Receiver Jacoby Jones was arrested and accused of driving while intoxicated, police said. He posted $500 bond and was released.
VIKINGS: Receiver Robert Ferguson, an unrestricted free agent, returned with a one-year contract for close to $1-million.
Stephen F. Holder can be reached at sholder@sptimes.com. Times wires contributed to this report.
Two-thirds say no to Bucs tickets
Given the state of the economy and the most recent price increase, would you buy or renew Bucs' season tickets this season?
1,579 total votes
Yes 33%
No 67%
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Comments on this article
by George
Mar 21, 2008 9:44 AM
I understand you the fans, down there in Tampa. You have to realize, that all tickets are on the rise. Look at the Cowboys, They are building a new stadium. Each seat in the new stadium has to put down a 10,000 deposit. Plus cost of tickets. GO BUCS
by RayMan
Mar 20, 2008 12:57 PM
Rays will be fielding a great product the next several years, and their tickets start at $9. Come out and show your support. Go Rays! Go Bucs!
by Joe
Mar 20, 2008 9:54 AM
Why should I spend $3,000 for my Club Seats when I can just show up on Sunday, pay $30 for a seat and go hang out with the crowd in Buccaneer Cove. I will attend every game this season, and pay 10% of what I paid last season...
by ?+
Mar 19, 2008 3:36 PM
Fine move me up! I'm loyal to the end
by SADF
Mar 19, 2008 3:36 PM
Glazers! WHY?
by jt
Mar 19, 2008 10:18 AM
simple-bucs owners do not want people to re new. they want all new seat holders with all new depsoits to collect
by Matt
Mar 18, 2008 11:57 AM
USF season tickets can be had for ~$150 a year. Plus the players play for the passion of the game, not a big salary.
Enjoy RayJay and support the local team at the same time.
by JJ
Mar 18, 2008 11:56 AM
Soon Ray Jay will look like Tampa stadium did in the mid-80's. Half empty.
by Tony
Mar 18, 2008 8:35 AM
The comments made by season ticket holder Virgel Sweet, echo my feelings.Full price for "Exhibition Games",renamed preseason but still practice games. Renege on seat deposit refund & commit to 3 years of paying whatever the Bucs decide.
by Matt
Mar 17, 2008 8:06 PM
I am giving up my seats this year. Just too much money for the seats I have. Going to buy a nice recliner and mini fridge for game days now.
by Tony
Mar 17, 2008 5:28 PM
The Prices are a lot. BUT Check out the prices in other stadiums. Dallas, Indy, Green Bay, You will see the grass is not greener. Season ticket for TB living in ATL.
by Bucfan seen it all
Mar 17, 2008 5:25 PM
I have been a life-long Bucfanwho loves watching good, exciting football, except watching The Bucs is rarely exciting, even with our "offensive genius" coach. When Joey Galloway retires they will be as exciting as bowling. Hire Bill Co
by syd finch
Mar 17, 2008 3:13 PM
I hope he sits in sec 124 cause I was looking to add 2 more seats.
by Mike
Mar 17, 2008 3:13 PM
I discontinued season tix after 10 years as well. Just kind of stopped liking being at every game. Its time has passed for me. And the 1pm, every Sunday, no variety from the NFL took the fun away too. Rather watch it at home with friends.
by Kurt
Mar 17, 2008 2:37 PM
This is more about our economy than being somewhere in the middle of the NFL in ticket prices, don't you think? That whole, "given the state of the economy" to preface your question gives it a meaning less to do with the Bucs I think.
by Dick
Mar 17, 2008 2:15 PM
Hard to pass this increase on when the product is not worth the price asked.
by Jim
Mar 17, 2008 1:45 PM
Miami is the only Florida team in the NCAA tourney. Write it numbskulls.
by Dave T
Mar 17, 2008 1:41 PM
More negativity from the Times regarding the Bucs. How can such a great paper have such a lousy sports department? They should just scrap the whole dept. and start over. I'm sick of the constant negativity regarding the Bucs.
by Joel Hawkins
Mar 17, 2008 1:39 PM
Charter Seat Members were suppose to be honored by having their names etched into a wall of the new stadium for helping fund the new stadium, this never happened, then told the wall would be built in the new practice facility, another broken promise!
by rj
Mar 17, 2008 12:11 PM
when i first bought my season tickets. i was told the seat deposit was a one time fee.i guess it was just another lie.i love the bucs just as much as the next guy.100.000 people on waiting list thats b--- sh-- only 10.000 mig
by shane
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
notice most of these people live in places that are high society. but of rich people complaining about tickets prices increasing and not wanting to let go of their money. but their money would help pay for workers at RJS and give out more jobs
by russ
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
i am neither rich enough or concerned enough
by Toukiss
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
ATTENTION GLAZERS! You are creating a mutiny in Tampa Bay! If you are gonna raise prices, SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY ON THE "TIGER WOODS" TYPE PLAYERS YOUR PUPPET GM ALLEN PROMISED US! Otherwise, you are setting yourselves up for MIGHTY FALL!
by tom
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
You are only a slave to the system if you allow yourself to be enslaved. One guy said "once you get off the merry-go-round can't get back on - and that is exactly why he remains enslaved - FEAR and pleasure drives his wo
by Jack
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
remarkable, 1 reason why our economy is facing the Perfect Storm.stupidity. Joe plumber forgoes credit bill to sink deeper in debt. An addict is one who can't pay bills but buys his drug.The Glazers know how to make $ - find a vice w/ mass
by Jack
Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
Many are completely asleep, unaware of converging fronts on the economic horizon. Sinking $, inflation, rising oil, subprime, etc. But who cares if i lose my house as long as I have season tickets! 8 games = $2k = $160 park = $650 beerfood = Pah
by Tom
Mar 17, 2008 11:08 AM
I simply would like to know if anyone feels like me? I felt all along that our 10 year seat deposit commitment would be reimbursed to me after the 10 years (What was left) for them to basically "hold me hostage" again seems border
by Jack
Mar 17, 2008 11:08 AM
Glazers, who are financially savvy, know what the average Joe doesn't - tough times are coming. Thus the massive price hike THIS year. Next year, in the throes of a de-recession, they will play the role of sympathetic owner by not rais
by Joe
Mar 17, 2008 11:08 AM
The waiting list is a farce. I added my name to it and got a call 5 days later yo see if I wanted to buy tickets. In other cities you have to put money down to be on the list. The bucs list must have had dozens of Joe Blows on it.
by rj
Mar 17, 2008 11:08 AM
If the economy keep going this way, we all will be listening on the radio with 40.000 fans in the stadium.Just add a couple losing seasons and were there.watch 100.000 list vanish.This is far from green bay.in tampa 100.000 only means 6 years wait.
by Bill McGuckin
Mar 17, 2008 11:07 AM
The fanS pay for everything.About time fans had representation during negotiations. Someone represents the players and owners, NO ONE REPRESENTS THE FANS WHO PAY FOR EVERYTHING!OVERCHARGED FOR PARKING, FOOD ETC.AS WELL AS TICKETS.!!DISGRACE
by Mike
Mar 17, 2008 10:32 AM
Nice article Stephen, way to troll a retirement home to find another negative story. If you want to pay for season tickets, do it, if not, don't. But don't whine and cry about it. Leave that to our local media like our resident whiner Mr. H
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