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Power of Bucs GM Allen seems to be growing
By
Stephen F. Holder, Times Staff Writer
In print: Sunday, May 11, 2008
Jon Gruden arrived in Tampa Bay in 2002 wielding a considerable amount of influence over personnel and other decisions. Whether Bucs ownership ever stated this to the coach in unequivocal terms is irrelevant. When the Glazer family coughed up two first-round draft picks, a pair of seconds and a cool $8-million, well, it was certainly implied Gruden would be heard. Just ask Rich McKay, the former general manager who sensed his role was being diminished and bolted for Atlanta. Gruden still enjoys a great deal of influence and probably always will. But here's what has changed: General manager Bruce Allen might be gaining on him. Not long ago, Allen was thought of by some as a figurehead with a fancy title. We can debate whether that was ever true. Either way, nothing could be further from the truth today. It has become apparent through a series of behind-the-scenes events and by reading between a lot of lines that Allen's profile has grown. He's no longer your garden-variety salary cap manager. Even Gruden seemed reconciled to this as recently as draft day when the Bucs chose cornerback Aqib Talib as their No. 1 pick. "My guts are ripped out of my body right now," Gruden said, jokingly referring to his heart-of-hearts desire to select an offensive player in the first round. "You wake up in the morning and think about what a great thrill it would be to coach some of these guys. "That's why they have general managers that make the tough calls, and I certainly support Bruce on this." There you have it: Talib was Allen's pick — period. That, by the way, doesn't make it a bad pick. In many ways, it was a savvy decision. But make no mistake, it was not Gruden's call. We'll never know whom the Bucs would have picked if Gruden had made the final decision. We just know it wasn't his to make. For more evidence, consider that seven of the team's 10 draft picks in 2007 were defensive players. That, too, probably left Gruden feeling gutted. How did this happen? It's most likely a result of Allen's willingness to carry out the Glazers' every wish and do much of their dirty work. There has been a conscious effort to reduce expenses on both the football and business sides of the company, and Allen has been leading the charge as a tough-as-nails contract negotiator and chief cost-cutter. Some will immediately decry this as an effort to suggest there is tension between Gruden and Allen, so let's be clear: There is absolutely no indication of that. But even though they clearly get along and dine together often, that doesn't mean they agree on everything. And at those inevitable times when there is a difference in opinions, perhaps your money should be on Allen, not Gruden. STAFF SHAKE-UP: It was disclosed last week that Larry Coyer no longer will coach the defensive line and will serve solely as an assistant head coach. His exact job duties are still being defined, but he'll roam and have input with several units, including the offensive line. And Gruden suggested he'll perhaps use Coyer as a resource in offensive game-planning and decision-making. It's a wise move by Gruden as this will enable the Bucs to take greater advantage of Coyer's four decades of coaching experience. But here's the key: We know Coyer has great advice to offer, but will Gruden accept it? It's hard to knock his resume as a coach, but there still are occasions when someone needs to save Gruden from himself. Former assistant head coach Art Valero wasn't the guy because he didn't have Gruden's ear. Maybe Coyer will be the one, maybe not. In the end, that will be decided by Gruden. STILL UNSIGNED: Defensive tackle Jovan Haye, a restricted free agent who started last season and recorded six sacks, still hasn't signed his one-year contract tender. But look for Haye to accept the deal soon as Allen seems unlikely to change his stance and offer a long-term deal. Haye's tender level will require the Bucs to pay him about $2.01-million. Stephen F. Holder can be reached at sholder@sptimes.com.
[Last modified: May 16, 2008 02:01 PM]
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by Alan
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May 16, 2008 2:01 PM
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Hopefully you are correct. Gruden is "clueless" on how to build a championship team.Instead of Dexter Jackson #2 pick, I would have selected a defensive stud. Gruden got another "medical liability". NY Giants proved that defense wins a Super Bowl.
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by Kurt
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May 13, 2008 9:43 AM
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Art Valero was doing a poor job with Cadillac and that is why he got fired. Let's not make this something that it's not. With Caddy's talent, he should not have been dancing in the backfield and Art was felt to be responsible for letting that happen.
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by Dave T
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May 13, 2008 9:31 AM
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It's the media whose been calling Allen a puppet. Shouldn't the article be titled "We're Wrong Again..Forgive Us For Our Incomptence". Fools!!!
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by Kurt
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May 12, 2008 5:10 PM
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Typically Holder has good things to say and they are not slanted. This is a hiccup I presume; possibly directed by others. Anyway, no news sometimes is better than old news. Coyer is being groomed to be Kiffin's next head coach departure - MMW.
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by shawn
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May 12, 2008 4:01 PM
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ummm yeah so what ever happened to proving what your worth? im so tired of these one year wonder players wanting big deals. the trend has to start somewhere, where you get paid what your worth once you prove you can hang. haye,good job... do it again
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by billy
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May 12, 2008 3:01 PM
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Stephen - This has been the process for years now. Nothing new, Allen and Gruden have worked together since Allen came here. If the paper and every one of it's writers would have been doing some actual work this would have been known for a long time.
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by Jay
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May 12, 2008 1:58 PM
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Good article (as always) Stephen. People tend to forget that this dynamic does not exist in places like Philly, D.C., or Dallas. Gruden and Allen obviously trust each other's judgment, and the on field product seems to reflect their communication.
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by Dan
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May 12, 2008 1:37 PM
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Gruden has had his share of Offensive toys, now its time to shore up the defense. Let Gruden trade some of his QBs, RBs, or WRs for different talent.
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by James
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May 12, 2008 1:28 PM
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Hey Dave,
if you don't like the comments,... don't read them..
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by Bob
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May 12, 2008 12:45 PM
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Doesn't Jovan need to re-sign at some point before the team can lower his offer? Isn't that what happened with Bobby McCray or somebody else? And if I'm not mistaken, he can sign his contract and still get a long-term deal, right?
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by Dave
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May 12, 2008 10:44 AM
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If you people hate the sports writers sooo much...apparent by your constant critisism....why don't you go somewhere else...or go back to your comic books.
Thanks S. Holder...for your insight on the Bucs front office.
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by Brett
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May 12, 2008 10:43 AM
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Robert, I disagree. The head coach may not have time to scout, but I am sure most coaches would want final say on players selected. Wasn't it Bill Parcells who said that if he was going to cook the meal he wanted to shop for the groceries.
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by Mike
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May 12, 2008 10:43 AM
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1) Bruce Allen has always had the power to make the final decisions on players, Gruden and Allen have both said that for many, many years now. You guys are the only ones who were running with that "Allen is Gruden's puppet angle", most know better.
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by Snook
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May 12, 2008 10:43 AM
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Allen's power "seems to be growing"???
Did you miss last years draft, too? If Gruden was in charge would the Bucs have drafted so many defensive players? No.
Get a clue. Allen has been in charge since he's arrived.
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by Tom
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May 12, 2008 10:42 AM
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Yes, please get Haye resigned. Don't let another great prospect get away.
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by Jay
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May 12, 2008 10:41 AM
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I agree with Cecil on this non-story. All along this has been the case but Holder is just figuring this out. These drive by media types are still whining over the loss of McKay, who also has seen his influence diminish in Atlanta, coincidence?
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by Fred
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May 12, 2008 10:07 AM
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Sorry Stephen. I guess you're not suppose to write articles anymore, as they may 'offend' some of your readers. Not allowed to report anything, make a comment positive or negative. All you can do is think happy thoughts because you might upset doug.
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by Frank
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May 12, 2008 9:38 AM
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McKay left because of a strained working relationship with the Glazers, not because of Gruden. And Gruden has never had a final say on personnel decisions, but he does have considerable input -- as it should be at any team. This is how the NFL works.
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by Vince
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May 12, 2008 9:38 AM
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Of course to say that the power has shifted, you have to agree with the premise that Allen is a Gruden puppet. Not sure many people believe that other than the media.
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by mikey
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May 11, 2008 1:42 PM
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who cares who's in charge, choosing between Jon and Bruce is like choosing between syphliss or gonnerhea..excuse the spelling, but you get my point!!
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by Michael
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May 11, 2008 1:42 PM
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Hasn't Gruden been saying all along Allen makes the final decisions on players? Are you guys so confused that the team when defense in the 1st again you have to make up a power shack-up article? Or is it you have to save face because no Mike Jenkins?
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by ben bolt fan
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May 11, 2008 1:35 PM
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I am glad Stroud did not write this article. It made sense, thanks Holder. Haye would be crazy not take this money.
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by Tony G
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May 11, 2008 1:35 PM
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I will try to keep this simple, there is a large group of people that meet including, Bruce Allen, Jon Gruden, Monte Kiffin and the entire coaching and scouting staff, so it was no surprise to anyone that 7 def. players were drafted in 2007,or Talib.
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by JB
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May 11, 2008 1:32 PM
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On this team going from a well-defined position to a job where your duties are defined on the fly means goodbye; Gruden is not about to share the offensive load with someone else, and who really needs a "roaming" coach? Coyer is the new Don Zimmer?
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by Cecil
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May 11, 2008 1:28 PM
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Well, whada ya know? Gruden has been saying all along that Bruce wasn't just a puppet, that he was in charge. And now it's a revelation? Must be a slow news day.
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by tom
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May 11, 2008 1:28 PM
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It is only a surprise to you media guys of the responsibilities/power of the GM & coach. If you would've been paying attention vs creating stories, you'd have known.
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by doug
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May 11, 2008 11:04 AM
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Typical Holder BS. Could it be Allen ALWAYS had the power of a GM, Gruden ALWAYS had to defer to him, but writers like Holder were spinning it otherwise due to personal agendas? As usual the Times is holding Pewter Report's jock on the Coyer story.
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by robert
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May 11, 2008 11:02 AM
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Its always the gm's who decide. well, at least most of the time. they are in charge of all of the scouts within the club. They scout players for two years or more. Its ridicules to think one man can coach a professional football team and scout player
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