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Chris Simms and Jon Gruden haven’t seen eye to eye in a while, the quarterback said. Simms stayed on the roster at the behest of the Glazers last season and went on injured reserve.
Chris Simms says his relationship with Jon Gruden is beyond repair and has been told he will not be with the team in 2008.
But with no trade on the horizon, the Bucs' forgotten quarterback wants to be released immediately, bringing an end to his career in Tampa Bay that seemed inevitable after missing nearly two seasons following surgery to remove his spleen.
"I feel like I'm being held hostage," Simms said. "I hate that all this has happened. I love Tampa. My family loves it here. But I've been quiet long enough. I feel like it's time to let everybody know why I'm not out there."
In an interview with the Times Monday, Simms broke his silence on why he has not attended the Bucs' off-season workout program.
He also shed some new light on his deteriorating relationship with Jon Gruden, who was instructed by the Glazer family to keep Simms on the roster last season against the wishes of the head coach. The Bucs signed Simms to a contract extension at the end of the 2006 season that paid him $7-million over the past two seasons. He is scheduled to earn a $2-million base salary in 2008.
Simms, who eventually was placed on Injured Reserve last season, says he's completely recovered from complications of his surgery in 2006. He is even entertaining attending the Bucs' mandatory minicamp, but not before lobbing bombs at the Bucs.
"I don't know how anybody can expect me to go back there and look coach Gruden in the eye and believe the relationship is hunky dory after some of the things that were said and done," Simms said. "Things were handled wrongly from the business end of it and definitely things were handled wrongly as far as how you treat a person.
Among the items Simms revealed Monday:
• Simms says he has confirmed that three teams contacted the Bucs on the second day of the NFL draft last April to begin discussions about trading a sixth- or seventh-round pick for the estranged quarterback. But when the Bucs selected San Diego quarterback Josh Johnson in the fifth round, "it basically ended that discussion."
• He said there is a 50 percent chance he attends the Bucs' mandatory minicamp June 17-19. If he still is on the roster in late July, he plans to report to training camp. "I'm not holding out or doing anything like that," Simms said. "if they want to deal with that media circus, that's fine with me."
• Simms offered that Gruden wanted to release him at the start of last season but the Glazer family intervened and made sure he had a spot on the roster, forcing the Bucs to keep four quarterbacks.
"I had a number of people tell me in the organization the Glazers basically made sure I wasn't released," Simms said. "That's the hardest part of this whoile thing. The Glazers are a great family. They're very caring human beings. I respect them in so many ways.'
• The NFL was so suspicious when the Bucs placed Simms on Injured Reserve last year that they made him fly to Missouri to be examined by a physician to determine if he had a season-ending injury.
"I had never been on a single injury report, so the NFL was a little suspicious," Simms said. I had to go see a doctor in Missouri that worked for the NFL. He was shocked there were all these MRIs of my elbow and shoulder but nothing of my abdomen. He put me through a battery of tests and knew I had some core issues there."
Simms says he knows he's not in the Bucs' plans for 2008. In fact, his name on a chart in Gruden's meeting room is off to the side next to Jake Plummer, the retired Broncos quarterback whom the Bucs will try to collect $7-million of his pro-rated signing bonus during a hearing in New York Wednesday.
"I know for a fact I'm not in their plans. I don't understand the hold up at this point. When Bruce Gradkowski got cut last week, Bruce Allen told him it was because there's not enough reps in practice for every quarterback. It's a crappy situation.
"How can I look (Gruden) in the eye when I know he wanted me cut last year. He did not want me to be part of the team and I have a lot of resentment about that. Nine or 10 months after a serious injury, I put my life on the line, it was the most serious injury they've ever been associated with, I worked as hard as I could to get back and he wasn't even going to give me a full year.
"I have a serious issue with that, I really do."
Simms said he felt the Bucs mishandled his injury last training camp, insisting that he had passed all physicals and was completely healthy. In fact, they attributed his performance to 'rustiness.'
"The way they handled it was wrong," Simms said. "I don't know if they wanted to cut me and didn't want to liable or they were hoping somebody would trade for me, but for him to say I was completely healthy and passed all the physicals and that I just wasn't performing well, that was a low blow. It was."
At one point, Gruden asked Simms if his problems had a mental component.
"He asked me, 'Is this injury in your head?'" Simms said. "I found that completely ridiculous. I was going through a tough time. I kept my mouth shut all summer. I felt I was betrayed to a degree. Nobody took time to talk to me on a personal level and see how I was doing."
Simms said the club did a series of tests on his elbow and shoulder when he complained of arm tightness, the result of not using his body to throw the ball.
"Anybody with common sense would check the area where there was a 10-inch scar going down the middle of my stomach first."
According to Simms, he was pressured into making an appearance in a preseason game at Miami, playing in just one series.
"The night before the game, coach asked me if I was ready to play," Simms said. "At that point, I knew there was no way I was ready to play. I had only had a few scout team reps for several weeks. But I went in there because I felt like they were giving me no choice."
"I understand the business part of this and what's in the team's best interest," Simms said. "But the time has come where I've got to look out for my interest, too.
"I feel great, I'm ready to play football again and I can't see how they expect me to back there and play and think everything will be fine. I'm doing this for legitimate reasons. I have a legitimate beef here. Things were done wrong from a business aspect and things were done wrong on a personal level. That's not how you treat people that have busted their butt for you."
[Last modified: Jun 14, 2008 11:30 PM]
Comments on this article
by Matt
Jun 12, 2008 3:00 PM
Sharon get a clue. Simms is a bum and he is a MCKAY GUY. Dungy's team? Are u serious? Does that mean Gruden gets the credit for the Raiders in the Super Bowl? So he closed with one team, and his other team played him in the championship!?! Get a clue
by Tj
Jun 12, 2008 3:00 PM
Sharon nobody is talking about Gruden taking this team to the championship. Still can`t believe people are still talking about wanting Dungy back,here is a news flash he is not coming back!Simms showed promise? 0-3 is promise with 7int`s and no td`s
by Scott
Jun 12, 2008 2:59 PM
bye simms. quit being a baby. this is pro football, not summer camp. GET RID OF SIMMS NOW.
by Joe
Jun 12, 2008 2:59 PM
Eric, you crack me up. 1TD and 7INT in 4 games is showing promise?? This town is lucky to have a coach like Gruden, who cares more about improving the team than paying attention to a few players, fans and media that are as fickle as a teenage girl!
by bucs_fan
Jun 12, 2008 2:59 PM
who are you kidding? last year you said you were ready to play and now it is gruden fault for letting you play in the pre season. enough with your B.S either play or sit out the whole season. stop being a child you are been paid for basically nothing
by Fire Me
Jun 12, 2008 2:59 PM
Fire the Coaches, Fire The GMs, Fire the owners, Fire the Cheerleaders, Fire the Media, Fire Captain Fear, and Fire the fans.
by Tuck
Jun 12, 2008 2:59 PM
A lot of people are comparing Simms' job to their own. Really? Imagine this: you get injured at work and nearly die. Afterwards, your boss wants to fire you, even though you show up to work every day and do your best. Would you be happy?
by Carrie
Jun 12, 2008 2:58 PM
Gruden did NOT win with Dungy's team. He may have won with Dungy's defense, but the offense was his! I have a lot of respect for Dungy, but let's give credit where credit is due!!!!
As for Simms, I wish him luck. I think it stinks what they did.
by w
Jun 12, 2008 2:57 PM
Simms is not very good, was not very good in college and was awful when he was our starter - he should consider himself lucky to have a job let alone one that pay 2 million a year
by Gary
Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM
Jerramy Stevens is welcome to the team,
but not Chris Simms or Earnest Graham.
You're a class act Chucky! When will
Cedric Benson be joining the team? Do
us Buc fans a favor Johnny boy and hit
the road!
by JR
Jun 12, 2008 12:32 PM
Eric, you just showed your blind hatred of gruden. "simms was showing real promise until the injury, and once again, gruden screwed it up." Was it gruden who locked onto his receivers and had those balls batted down. Did gruden throw 1 TD to 7 INTS.
by Adam
Jun 11, 2008 6:45 PM
My advice to Chris...try and get fired. Show up to practice with a bag of Doritos and a beer and watch the reps you're not getting while crunching away. Pull a Costanza and see if they'll toss you out.
by Sharon
Jun 11, 2008 3:53 PM
Would you all please give me a break about Gruden taking the team to the championship. That was Dungy's team and Dungy's training. Gruden was just the closer. Look at his stats since he brought in his only players. Gruden needs to goooooo!
by Eric
Jun 11, 2008 3:52 PM
gruden won the superbowl with dungy's team...he dismantled it after that and what do we have to show for it, two playoff first round losses in five or six years. simms was showing real promise untill the injury, and once again, gruden screwed it up
by herb
Jun 11, 2008 3:47 PM
i think Simms, who isnt exactly a proven winner should shut up and collect the several million a year he is being paid. Pay me that kind of wage and you can say anything you want about me and i will thank them for their very accurate criticism.
by Lea
Jun 11, 2008 3:42 PM
I have no sympathy for a whiny millionaire-but it is curious that everyone who leaves or is unhappy w/the Bucs-coaches & players-blasts Gruden.No,coaches don't have to be nice-but how about some character and decency? Gruden has none.
by bjm
Jun 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Go Bucs
Hit the road Simms, you had your chance and you'll be lucky to get another.
I will say this Chris, I still think that was a completed touchdown pass that was called incomplete against washington in the playoff 3 years ago at home.
by vinny
Jun 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Gruden is a wussy! Acts like some hardcore tough guy but could never do what Simms has done.
by Ronald
Jun 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Gruden inherited a good defense from Tony, that's why he won a Super Bowl. What has he done ever since that first year? What happen to that offensive master mind? Tampa offense has always been garbage. The only reason they win games is because of that defense which was started by Tony and maintained by the highest paid defense coordinator. Gruden hasn't done anything to make this franchise better.
by James
Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM
oh fire the coach, chris is crying haha plain and simple let chris go he's proved nothing anyways. As for gruden your only as good as the players you coach (a broke down cadillac, old age and below average players).
by George
Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM
Greg, what a stupid thing to say. Any athelete worth his salt isn't content to sit on the sideline and collect a paycheck.
Any more gems like that, kindly keep to your self.
by BroEli
Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM
Gruden proves every day what a bum he is. Sad for the fans of TB. Take the blinders off and see him for the fool he is.
by Michael
Jun 11, 2008 1:56 PM
You reporters kill me! Instead of reporting the news, you guys have become the "Ann Landers" of the sports world. You would be much better off working for the "National Enquirer". A fan such as myself who was lucky enough to sit in on a private practice and have lunch at 1 Buc Place, I can see what Coach Muir means. What happens inside that building on a daily bases and the perception of what you reporters thinks happens is night and day. You guys should be bagging groceries for a living!
by chris
Jun 11, 2008 1:55 PM
Gruden needs to work on his interpersonal skills. He may not realize it, but it is a big part of effective coaching and leadership. He traded away their best players to make this his team and they have consistently been very average since 2003.
by bob
Jun 11, 2008 1:55 PM
PLEASE, trade him to Miami with a draft pick for Jason Taylor, so Tampa has a decent chance to go deep in the playoffs this season !!
by Duane
Jun 11, 2008 1:36 PM
So if Gruden had cut him last year, he would be with a team today playing where he wanted. But no, I wanted compassion last year. I want it both ways. In fact, I want it my way all the time. Come on, Simms, is to frail to play in the NFL anyway.
by Alex
Jun 11, 2008 1:36 PM
Hey,Why we are always having issues with a QB, Gradkowski, cut, Simms, cut, Garcia, unhappy, Plummer, where is he?, that is not a deal, who else, griese?, no way he is not our QB for the future. So? Again another year of uncertainty at QB position.
by Serena
Jun 11, 2008 1:31 PM
dungy made the team that went to the Super Bowl, gruden took the accolades...simms just needs to go else where...bucs need to pull it together and work as a WHOLE TEAM, rather than in components
by Phil
Jun 11, 2008 1:29 PM
Gruden is a monster JO. He coasted Dungy's team to a super bowl win, and has driven the team into the ground ever since. Leading the team requires more than mugging for the cameras.WAY OVERDUE FOR A REAL COACH!!
by Jim
Jun 11, 2008 1:28 PM
Fire Gruden and bring back Dungy!
by bm
Jun 11, 2008 1:28 PM
how the hell could you blame gruden? he pretty much made tampa what it is today. if gruden wants him released he should be released.
by Matt
Jun 11, 2008 1:27 PM
Good!! I think the Bucs should have done away with Simms a couple years ago...he has never shown that he can be a consistent starter so release him!!!
by mookie
Jun 11, 2008 1:20 PM
bring back sam wyche and the old uniforms...it was much easier when we didn't want to win. Dungy and Gruden = playoffs. Bucs have no oblogation to Simms - they have an obligation to win. I think we will read about his release shortly
by Tim
Jun 11, 2008 8:46 AM
Why is he mad at Gruden? If Gruden had his way this wouldn't have played out like this and Simms would've been cut already. The Glazers prolonged the inevitable.
by JM
Jun 11, 2008 8:46 AM
Gruden and the Glazers are slime balls!!!!!!
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