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TAMPA — Acquiring Packers quarterback Brett Favre has at least been discussed in the front office of One Buc Place.
General manager Bruce Allen last week asked quarterback Chris Simms how he thought Favre would fare in the Bucs offense with limited practice time.
"He asked me questions about Brett Favre," Simms said. "He asked if I felt Brett would be able to come back and be good here if he didn't have a lot of reps in training camp. I said I thought he would but there would have to be some compromise with coach (Jon) Gruden. He'll just want the play called and to drop back and throw it in there.
"But it's something we talked about."
The Packers reportedly have been gauging interest about trading for Favre and have contacted at least one NFC opponent.
The Bucs run a version of the West Coast offense but Gruden's system has evolved to the point where Favre may need at least a full training camp to pick it up.
Starter Jeff Garcia, who also is 38, is in the final year of his contract and unhappy about the lack of progress on an extension.
Allen declined to comment Tuesday whether the Bucs might be interested in Favre.
"There's been so many reports that have come out in the last few weeks," Allen said. "The only people that can address that are the Packers and/or the player. I can't keep up with all of them."
Asked if he saw any scenario in which Favre might play for the Bucs this season, Allen said, "Again, all of those conversations are hypotheticals. Only the Packers or the player can ever discuss those things."
But apparently, it was a discussion between Allen and Simms. Simms, who has asked to be traded, said Allen sent him a notice requiring him to honor an early reporting date of July 15 at 7 a.m.
Simms, 27, who did not participate in the offseason workout program or mandatory minicamp, complied rather than risk a fine. He said the Bucs wanted to evaluate him and he threw passes to receivers Wednesday and Thursday.
"I did work out, but there were no coaches there," Simms said. "They wanted me to work out and throw to receivers. Bruce did go out on the field one day to check it out."
While Simms will be among the 80 players reporting to the Celebration Hotel on Friday, Garcia has been excused for the weekend to attend a reunion to celebrate the 35th anniversary of Gavilan College's 1973 national title. Garcia's father Bob, who coached Gavilan for 23 seasons, organized the event. Garcia played one season in 1989 at Gavilan before transferring to San Jose State.
The Bucs will bring five quarterbacks to camp, although Simms might be insurance against injury or eventually be traded.
"We'll adapt as we go," Allen said. "The five quarterbacks, as we've talked about, the position is important us. We see it as a need position in the entire NFL. We feel fortunate that we have on our roster four different guys that have won games for the Buccaneers. A lot of teams wish they could say they have two.
"The mind-set is let's make sure everyone we have stays healthy. We've seen our depth depleted at different times at various positions due to injuries," Allen said. "We really like the players that we have in place. We'll see what transpires. It's too hard to predict the future right now.''
In June, Simms said his relationship with Gruden was beyond repair.
"I told Bruce, 'Hey, I have a lot of respect for you,' " Simms said. " 'But I don't see how it can work. There were so many things that were said and done and you knew they were wrong.' He said he was just doing what was best for the team."
Allen said the Bucs must release four players by Friday to comply with the 80-man roster limit.
Offensive lineman Jeremy Zuttah, a third-round pick, reached an agreement, leaving three draft choices unsigned: cornerback Aqib Talib, the first-rounder; receiver/returner Dexter Jackson (second round) and quarterback Josh Johnson (fifth round).
Allen said it appears that running back Cadillac Williams (knee) is headed to the physically unable to perform list. If so, he will count against the roster limit.
"Cadillac is the one you feel is going that way, but not only by league rule," Allen said. "We decided a long time ago we would give him a complete physical at the beginning of camp along with everyone else and make a decision on that day."
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Comments on this article
by willem
Jul 24, 2008 4:44 PM
Maybe the bucs can aquire barry bonds so we have all the jerks in town.......pffff
please bucs thinks twice
by Tony
Jul 24, 2008 4:44 PM
If this goes down I am buying my first Jersey ever. Go for it Brett GO Tampa and:
Go for it Mr Gruden !!!
by Quanah
Jul 24, 2008 4:38 PM
LOL! Simms goes out to throw and no coaches watch?! This is the clearest indication yet that the Bucs have no interest in him whatsoever.
Simms just doesn't get that he is an employee or that fans are not interested in whether the coach is a meanie.
by Terry B.
Jul 23, 2008 9:43 PM
Why not give #4 a chance? Hall of Famer. Great team player. What else would Gruden want? We had a terrible 1st Round pick, a quarter back that knows how to win would be the best thing for the "Pewter Pirates"!! GO BUCS!! (transplant from St.Pete)
by 4me2say
Jul 23, 2008 8:49 PM
What was this big retirement speech for? If brett's just going to come back! Didn't he say "I don't have it in me any more, and I don't know if I want to play. YEAH-that's what the bucs need, someone like that.
by Bob
Jul 23, 2008 7:30 PM
Goodell's interference by telling the Packers to "do something" is absurd. They did something in response to Fav-re retiring, unretiring, retiring. Goodell has no business involving himself in the inner workings of the team. Go Farve Go...AWAY!!!
by Edgar
Jul 23, 2008 6:35 PM
I say NO TO FAVRE period. This guy is a cancer. If he comes to Tampa, he is going to pull the same thing like he is doing in Green Bay. He is giving Green Bay a hard time on coming back and he is going do the same in Tampa.
by joe bucs
Jul 23, 2008 6:35 PM
Does anyone know what BF's hit is to the Packers cap? I heard it was in the 13 million range for two years. If that's the case the Pack will unload him.
by Kirk
Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM
Jim - Favre doesn't have to "unretire." He's not officially retired. the packers just have to remove him from the reserve/retired list before anything can officially go down.
by Edgar
Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM
His press conference with Favre in tears is so pathetic ti is not funny. NO TO FAVRE ABD SIMMS.
by Sal
Jul 23, 2008 5:20 PM
Let's get Favre!
by Mark
Jul 23, 2008 4:41 PM
First off.... As another poster stated.. Allen asked Simms who is pissed at the Bucs about Favre? Come on Stroud, first its too hot and now Simms talks about Favre coming to Tampa...hmmm... Is he mad he's not QB and this story was made up? We'll see
by Celia
Jul 23, 2008 3:38 PM
I pity TB if he joins. Favre has been playing emotional blackmail with the Packers for the past few years. Will he/will he not retire. He is selfish. He will get tired and do the same down there. He should have stayed retired and gone out with class.
by Peter
Jul 23, 2008 3:28 PM
As a Packers fan, if we could get Garcia for a retire Brett that would be great. Garcia would be a starter in GB, and lets face it, we're sick of the BF retirement soap opera.
by Peter
Jul 23, 2008 3:23 PM
As a Packers fan, if we could get Garcia for a retire Brett that would be great. Garcia would be a starter in GB, and lets face it, we're sick of the BF retirement soap opera.
by Chris
Jul 23, 2008 2:58 PM
Dr. Stroud has a Man Crush for Chris Simms....enough of the same rehashed crap!!!! I wonder what Bruce really said to Chris. I really doubt it was what was reported here....
by Jason
Jul 23, 2008 2:56 PM
Ok, Simms for Favre trade is a joke, try a second rounder as well
by BucingARight
Jul 23, 2008 2:55 PM
Do you really think Allen is that Stupid? Why would he bring this up to "Big Mouth" unless he was using him to send a message to another player(s) or a team? This isn't Allen first rodeo...
by J A
Jul 23, 2008 2:51 PM
The "Gun Slinger" is coming to Tampa. You can count on that. Chris Simms is a whining, immature, brat, living off of his father's name! Chris Simms is NOT a qualified NFL Quarterback. Send his ass to the CFL. See ya - Simms.
by Irish Mike
Jul 23, 2008 2:51 PM
But, em, is anyone else a little concerned that Brett will have no one to throw to?
by JOHN
Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM
EVEN TRADE ,,, SIMMS FOR FAVRE.
by mike
Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM
Why would Allen ask Simms, the estranged quarterback, for his opinion? Could the bucs be considering a Simms for Farve trade with Green Bay? It would make sense for both teams.
by Kristian
Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM
Ok,so Brett has a awsome resume but w/ everything Garcia did last year and the chemistry w/ the players I dont see how you put him in the backseat 4 Farve.To me the 2 are the same BF is definitly more accomplished but I think JG will shine this year.
by tony c
Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM
brett farve is a good QB but im willing to support whatever bruce allen wants to do because the - to signing brett farve is it brings a media circus to the bucs camp and for people who want to go and watch like me cant. the + is he retires a buc!
by Dave
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
This is becoming so old. Every year we are discussing new quarterbacks coming to this team and every year we have a new one starting.
This team has become a very boring franchise!
by Sherri
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
Bring Brett to Tampa!!!! Superbowl stars are in my eyes!!!
by Yoshi
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
Favre is lame and we dont need him. I guess he wants to get himself killed. And i agree with valrico, please can you give me some news on different players.
by Jim
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
Tony, what are you talking about? First Favre has to un-retire. Then, Green Bay will do what is in Green Bay's best interests. That's what their GM gets paid to do. This "free Brett Favre" talk is just childish nonsense.
by darryl
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
people need to get over the youth movement thing.youth is good in some areas.but when you have a chance to have a pro-bowl legend QB on your team who has a couple years left.you dont think to long.the early bird gets the worm.Favre= superbowl.
by LYNN
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
I WILL BURN MY BUCS GEAR IF HE COMES TO TAMPA. I JUST CAN'T STAND HIM HE NEEDS TO RETIRE AND QUITE JERKING HTE PRESS AROUND!
by jc
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
askeOMG Allen smms about Farve? That"s rich! Goodbye Chris. The only ones talking farve in Tampa are transplanted cheeseheads and the ones who wear bucs jerseys until Green Bay comes to town.AFarve ain't happenin.
by JR
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
Didn't Farve say in an earlier story that Florida is way too hot?
by Greg
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
As a lifelong Packer fan and veteran of many games at Lambeau I can tell you that Brett hasn't lost much and would make the Bucs better immediately. Sorry but you don't have any quarterbacks on your roster that can get you far into the playoffs.
by Jake
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
Pretty passive agressive on Simms part to make public this conversation regarding Favre to the media. I am sure he knew exactly what he was doing in releasing info on conversations made in confidence to the press
by james
Jul 23, 2008 1:20 PM
my question is where is the qb situation in 3 years? 2 for that matter. signing farve moves garcia out of tampa. farve hangs it up...who's left greise? in 30 years of watching we only had 1 definate qb testaverde and he sucked. lock up garcia now
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