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Trade for Favre doesn't make sense for Bucs

By John Romano, Times Sports Columnist
In print: Wednesday, August 6, 2008


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Brett Favre’s interception rate might make him a poor fit with the Bucs.
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Brett Favre’s interception rate might make him a poor fit with the Bucs.

The legend is out there, supposedly searching for a home. This quarterback of storybook finishes may have one more left to be written.

So how, if you are the Buccaneers, do you not go after Brett Favre? How do you not stack up your draft picks and whip out your checkbook?

Perhaps by realizing what you already have, and ignoring this teenybopper crush.

Oh, the idea of Favre in Tampa Bay is tempting, I'm sure. Favre is everybody's idea of a good-time player, and nobody throws quarterback parties quite like Jon Gruden.

But once you get past the fantasy and delve into the reality, I'm just not sure he makes sense here.

Look, Favre is a better quarterback than Jeff Garcia. Always has been, always will be. Favre will retire as an all-time great quarterback, and Garcia will retire as a sometimes good quarterback.

The question, however, is whether Favre is a better quarterback than Garcia for the 2008 Buccaneers.

Forget the cost in trade. And forget the price in salary. Just as a switch in quarterbacks, it's worth asking whether this would be the wisest move Tampa Bay could make in early August.

Pick almost any team and I would argue it would be better off with Brett Favre, even at 38, as its quarterback. Tampa Bay is one of the few teams that would make me pause.

The reason is the fit. Like Warren Sapp in spandex, it just doesn't seem the best way to go.

For more than a dozen years, the Bucs have been a team that looks best on defense. The offense is the accent lamp in the room. And for a team that depends on defense to win games, the worst thing an offense can do is get in the way with turnovers.

Around here, the formula has been pretty simple, and inarguable. Since the arrival of Monte Kiffin, whenever the Bucs offense has had one interception per game or less, the team has had a winning record. And whenever the average has gone over 1.0, the Bucs have had a losing record.

So, okay, Favre is no Bruce Gradkowski, but you have to admit the man is not accustomed to playing it safe. The Packers have won, more often than not, with offense. They have won with Favre laughing hard, throwing long and treating his defense like the Pips. So it's hard to imagine, at this point in his career, Favre will easily adjust to the concept of 13-10 games.

Yes, Favre could make Tampa Bay's offense better, but he would not take care of the ball as well as Garcia. That tradeoff is where things get sticky.

How many more points would Favre have to produce to make the turnovers acceptable? And could he provide that many points with the supporting cast he would have in Tampa Bay's offensive huddle?

And it's not like the Bucs would have time to remake the roster in Favre's image. This is not 1992 when the Falcons traded a 22-year-old Favre to Green Bay, and the Packers knew they had their quarterback for the future. This time, Favre is almost 39 and probably has one season left. Maybe two.

Which means, for a move such as this to be a success, the Bucs would have to play deep into January.

Tampa Bay is supposedly one of the logical landing spots for Favre because Gruden's playbook is somewhat similar to what the Packers have been running since the Mike Holm-gren days.

So, I suppose, Favre and Garcia may speak the same language, but it's with entirely different accents.

Garcia is one of the NFL's best at ball-control offense. He may not hit as many long balls, but he doesn't strike out much, either.

Favre, on the other hand, is the league's wild child. He has never seen a deep route that he didn't think he could complete, and he has never seen a double team he couldn't beat. It's no coincidence Favre has led the league in touchdown passes and interceptions on multiple occasions.

On top of all that, there is the timing issue. The regular-season opener is 32 days away, and Favre is not yet in town. That gives him, at best, four weeks to get in shape and learn Gruden's terminology.

As great as Favre has been as a quarterback, his strong point is not his preparation. We're not talking Peyton Manning studying video and scripting plays.

Favre has been an instinctive quarterback. A fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants guy. Gruden likes to joke that he is not a deep thinker, but the Bucs coach is Plato compared to Favre.

In a way, that's why this entire saga grew so complicated. Favre decided he still wanted to play football and started telling people about it 10 minutes later. From the way this thing has played out, it does not appear he considered the many ramifications.

As far as that goes, the Bucs could also be accused of having a nasty case of myopia. If it would be a gamble to bring Favre in, at this point it's also a gamble being in the middle of the rumor mill.

How is Garcia supposed to feel this morning? Hurt? Angry? Betrayed? Wondering whether Chris Simms will let him stick an extra needle in his Jon Gruden voodoo doll?

Until now, Garcia was ticked off because he thought the Bucs were cheap. Should he feel better now that he realizes being cheap may not be their worst quality?

In the end, chasing Brett Favre would be a bold move.

For Tampa Bay, I'm not sure it is the right move.

John Romano can be reached at romano@sptimes.com.



[Last modified: Aug 11, 2008 03:12 PM]



Comments on this article
by dgc Aug 6, 2008 4:20 PM
Brett Farve will help the Bucs deep passing, but really the bucs need some quality receivers, no disrespect but Joey Galloway is getting old, Michael Clayton is not dependable.so i say Donald Driver would be a better trade for the Bucs. T.O.L!
by Max Aug 6, 2008 3:46 PM
Farve is trying to hang on too long. He should watch the movie "Everybody's All-American" and the sequence where Dennis Quaid [Gavin Grey - The Grey Ghost], is playing for the Broncos.
by Barry Aug 6, 2008 3:44 PM
Come on use your brain....we have a QB whocannot throw a pass 30 yds with zip...did you watch Brett last year? He makes Buc receivers all pro immediately...Thanks Jeff but see ya...
by JJ Aug 6, 2008 3:42 PM
He doesn't want to come here, and we don't want him. He's being a spoiled brat. Favre wants to go to a team that is a Super Bowl contender - but name me a legitimate Super Bowl contender that needs a QB? Don't say TB, we're fine with Garcia.
by bob Aug 6, 2008 3:40 PM
brett favre would be a great fit here. he would give us offensive leadership that we do not have and his energy would make guys like clayton turn it on. he is also gonna go play full speed and I think gruden know he would have to play favres way!go#4
by TIMOTHY Aug 6, 2008 3:19 PM
John Romano, You couldn't be more right...\Garcia has the offence down pat...it would take Farve 2 if not more seasons to get as far as Garcia. Go Bucs
by John Aug 6, 2008 3:18 PM
John you are right on target, great article and I agree 100%. I believe if Tampa does get Favre, you'll look like a seer and all the people that disagree with you will eat crow.
by Matt Aug 6, 2008 1:03 PM
The best quarterback in all of football might be willing to play here??? omigawd....sign him!!! If the Packers are so dense that they would let him go, for the love of pete...sign him up as a Buc!! The rest of the Bucs should thank their lucky stars and elevate their game to get to Brett's level of competition!! Have you seen him play?? He hasn't lost a step and guided his team right to the very brink of the Super Bowl....JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO!!!! omigawd, sign him today!!!!
by Rick Aug 6, 2008 1:03 PM
I'd stick with Garcia. He made a huge difference last year, and has been a winner everywhere he's played. Gruden should display full confidence in this guy and let him do what he does best, which is win games! Garcia is a class act.
by dennis Aug 6, 2008 11:50 AM
Yes I live in this cow town of green bay. I have been following the packers since the late 50s. After all those years I can say this was the stupidest move they ever made (and there have been man many like not drafting barry sanders!)I am now a Bucs
by Matt Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
Good column; wrong conclusion. Favre is worth the risk. People must understand it IS a risk. But it's a risk of getting a guy who can have you playing a home game on February 1, 2009. If he can do that, great move; if not, Gruden probably moves
by Matt Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
Drew...You're an idiot! Kind of ironic you're calling someone an idiot and misspell the word YOU'RE!!
by Darrell Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
How could the Bucs not be better with Farve. Stop hating on the dude. He has earned the ability to do just about anything he pleases (just as long as it's legal). I like Mr. Garcia but there is an Old/New sherrif coming to town so move over politely.
by W J Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
Farve! The man is always healthy and plays with his whole heart. Not even close , go with Farve the winner!
by Chaz Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
The soap opera continues to Favre or not to Favre. We still dont have a quarter back for the future. So as a Team the bucs have to go for what they think is good for the team now till they find the future. if your gonna have a older qb why not Favre.
by Tom (ex cheesehead) Aug 6, 2008 11:36 AM
From 2005 to 2007 stats from Favre to "all" of the Bucs qb's combined Favre 63 TD's & 66 INT's Bucs 49 TD's & 40 INT's The Bucs had rookies, rejects and practically Grandma starting at QB when the Pack had one of the "best", I'll take Grandma
by Lorraine Aug 6, 2008 11:35 AM
I don't think the Glaxers should financially back up Favre coming to Tampa. The offense has done pretty good with Garcia and that money could be spent on more offensive positions to help win games. Who's to say Brett will really enhance Bucs offense
by Joe Aug 6, 2008 10:49 AM
Finally, someone who understands that this would be a stupid move. If the Bucs do make this move, Gruden is playing out his fantasy of always wanting to have #4. And we will have one exciting (Not winning!) season and pay for it for years to come.
by Wayne Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
I'm sure we would go through the same thing that the Packers have gone through the last few years. Will he want to play after this year? Will he be able to learn the offense well enough to be better than Garcia? I say go with Jeff.
by Drew's an idiot Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
Drew YOU'RE an IDIOT! Learn to spell before calling someone else an idiot.
by douog Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
hey drew, it's you're, not your. Who's the idiot, moron?
by brad Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
I agree with John R. This is a bad move. And Drew, if YOU'RE going to call someone an idiot, you should probably learn the the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.
by Kim Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
FARVE=SUPER BOWL
by Heather Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
I feel sorry for y'all.
by brandon Aug 6, 2008 10:48 AM
I was born in '76, the first season of the franchise, too young to see doug williams at qb, 32 years, and the bucs have never had a star quarterback, well we had steve young..oh i wont go there...we had a couple qbs show glimpses, we deserve a favre.
by Dave T Aug 6, 2008 10:24 AM
For once, I agree Romano. This, to me, is a team killer. If this happens, i will become the leader of the Gruden Hatin' Club.
by John Aug 6, 2008 10:24 AM
Another stupid write up by Romano. Way to dis the hometown QB. Favre aint what he used to be.We have an all pro QB that plays his heart out for us in Jeff Garcia. Ill be sick if that self centered, media queen Farve somehow makes it to the bay area.
by Wade Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
In what world would you really take Jeff Garcia over Brett Favre to be your quarterback? You have a chance to bring in one of the greatest of all time and you waffle because your of your other qarterback (who is also old). Football in Jan = Favre.
by Slick Ric Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
I so sick of all of these bandwagon bucs fans crying over the chance we might get Farve in Tampa Bay. These are the same fans that cry and moan when Garcia and the Bucs are playing bad.SHUT UP AND GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE!He might just help us.
by Brian Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
Bucs should give no more than a 3rd round pick. Don't forget how bad Favre played from 2003-2006. In 07' with a much improved O' and 3 receivers drafted in rounds 1-2- which Bucs don't have- Favre played well. After struggling this year-retire again
by dave Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
where can I buy a #4 jersey ?
by Bob Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
To the half dozen or so who spelled his name incorrectly...it's "Favre". Got it? "Favre" not "Farve". Also, to Drew calling John an idiot, it's "you're" not "your". Ah, the irony.
by Steve Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
Are you kidding? Favre is by far the superior quarterback. Garcia would be a backup for most teams. Let's go #4!
by Kapok Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
John we are better off with Garcia. Your article is right on line
by jean Aug 6, 2008 10:23 AM
This would be a comedy if not so pathetic. Favre reminds me of the movie w/Dennis Quaid-"Everybody's All American." Not able to retire gracefully, a crybaby, ready to go out in humiliation rather than grace. Then there's Gruden, loves a drama. So sad
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