JACKSONVILLE — The joint practice Wednesday between the Bucs and Jaguars featured seven former Florida State players age 25 or younger, including CB Jalen Ramsey, taken by Jacksonville with the No. 5 pick in this year's draft who said he still likes going up against Jameis Winston.
"Jameis always gets me better," Ramsey said of the Bucs quarterback after the first of two joint practices. "I love going against Jameis. He made me a better player my two years in college with him, and (Wednesday) was good working with him as well."
Ramsey said going against Winston as an opponent in practice was much the same as doing so as a Seminoles teammate — challenging.
"He's the same Jameis I've always known," Ramsey said. "He's such a leader to his guys. The guys really listen to him. He, in a sense, is kind of like an extra coach out there, to his guys and even to us, the defensive guys. He bounces ideas off of us and helps us out sometimes. (Wednesday) we talked after practice a little bit, helped each other out."
Winston had said he was looking forward to going up against Ramsey and former Florida State LB Telvin Smith, expecting a lot of trash talk from the latter, but Smith kept fairly quiet Wednesday.
"It was good getting back out there on the field with him, seeing him over there, doing his thing," Smith said. "We've got to keep getting each other better. I was trying to temper (trash-talking) down a little bit. I didn't want to get started, because I know when I get started, I go too far sometimes."
NO JUICE: Bucs coach Dirk Koetter was pleased with what his team was able to accomplish in the first joint practice but didn't think his offense made the most of the opportunity to go against a talented Jaguars defense.
"I just didn't think we had much juice today on offense. It happens," Koetter said. "Anything I say on that would be like we're making excuses. The bottom line is I just didn't think we were crisp on offense as we have been in our own practices. But again it's a different environment, so it was a good experience for us."
THIS AND THAT: TE Brandon Myers returned to practice for the first time in six days after missing time with a knee injury. … Bucs LB Daryl Smith, the Jaguars' all-time leading tackler, got the day off as a "veteran's day." Koetter said he had proven himself plenty on those fields. … Evan Smith worked as the first-string Bucs center, continuing to rotate in with Joe Hawley in training camp. … Long-snapper Andrew DePaola missed a fourth straight practice with an undisclosed injury. Told that the player had said he had a veteran's day off earlier in the week, Koetter said, "I don't think he's that much of a veteran."
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