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Tough times hit Tampa Bay golf courses

By Rodney Page, Times Staff Writer
In print: Thursday, August 28, 2008


Quail Hollow Golf Club has shut down; for how long is unknown.
Quail Hollow Golf Club has shut down; for how long is unknown.
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The parking lot is empty. Flags remain in the practice-green holes, but brown spots and sand are slowly taking over the Bermuda grass. A sign printed on a sheet of 8-by-11 paper is taped to the pro shop door:

Quail Hollow Golf Club is closed until further notice. Sorry for the inconvenience.

A long, hot summer has taken its toll on the public course in the southern Pasco County town of Wesley Chapel. Play has steadily decreased. With no golfers, there is no golf course.

It has been closed for nearly two weeks while owners decide when and if to reopen. Sylvia Klaver, an employee at Quail Hollow for six years, acts as a part-time security guard until she finds another job.

"We all got a call one day and they said they were closing,'' Klaver said. "They told us, 'Don't bother coming into work.' The whole staff was laid off.''

A grounds crew mows the grass weekly, but the swimming pool is empty, the driving range across the street is abandoned and the greens will burn without care. Klaver said she was told the hope is to reopen the course before the return of snowbirds this winter. She knew making it through the summer would be difficult.

"We would get maybe seven to 10 golfers in one day,'' Klaver said. "We'd bring in maybe $100 all day, including the pro shop and the concessions. You just couldn't get anybody to come out and play.''

Tough times

While other area courses haven't had to close this summer, they have had to tighten their belts. At the Tides Golf Club in Seminole, head professional Darryl Spelich can look out the pro shop window and see the green fairways and blue waters that dot the course. But what he hasn't seen is enough golfers.

Spelich said play is down nearly 25 percent compared to past summers. He has tried to increase tee times by advertising deals, offering special discounts to groups and hosting tournaments. It hasn't worked.

"Never seen it like this,'' he said. "It was down a little last summer because of the heat. But to see it drop off this dramatically. … I think it will rebound. Our owner seems to think this will turn around. Knock on wood.''

Courses across the bay area are hoping the sluggish economy will rebound. With less money to spend, and with gas prices still high, course managers have seen fewer golfers this summer.

At Rocky Point Golf Course in Tampa, play is down by 10 percent, according to head professional Mario Aguila.

"Every little thing that happens, with the gas going so high and the weather, has had an effect on our play,'' said Aguila, whose course has had 600-700 rounds per week this summer. "Every year is different. Two years ago we had a wonderful summer. Every little thing has an impact. But this year, basically, I believe it's the economy.

"Please, please let it pick up. Oct. 1, that's when we start to see some change. Everybody is having a tough time right now.''

That includes Clearwater Country Club, which normally draws golfers from the beaches as well as from Clearwater and nearby Dunedin.

"I'd say we're down 8-10 percent from last summer,'' head pro Eric Lettie said. "That's a little better than some courses are doing. I don't think people want to travel too far to the course, which is good for us.''

Not every course it taking a hit. Lake Jovita Golf and Country Club, a semiprivate course in Dade City, has had enough play this summer thanks to more advertising. Head professional Jim Hafner estimates there are a combined 1,000 rounds played per week on the north and south courses.

"We've seen a little increase, actually,'' Hafner said. "But we've gotten more aggressive with our promotions. It's worked, but we've had to get very aggressive to make it work.''

For most courses, however, this summer has been about hanging on.

"Hopefully you get enough to pay the bills and wait for the upcoming season,'' Spelich said.

There was a time

Fred Tucker, 81, can remember when the Quail Hollow parking lot was full almost every day. A native of North Tampa, he helped clear the land in the early 1960s and assisted designer Charles Griffin.

In 1965, when the course opened, he was the first superintendent. There were no houses lining the fairways, as there are now. There was only one road leading to the course. There wasn't even a clubhouse.

But word got out about Quail Hollow. The course had little competition in that area, and tee times were hard to get.

"We'd have people come down from Canada, play the course, and then fly back to Canada the next day,'' Tucker said. "It was one of the best courses in the whole state to play.''

Through the years, ownership changed and other courses sprang up nearby. It became harder and harder to compete. With fewer rounds came less money to keep the course up, and golfers went elsewhere.

As Tucker looked over the empty course, he pointed out the spot where the first equipment shed used to be. And he remembered the day he killed two rattlesnakes off the first fairway.

"It's sad to see this,'' Tucker said. "This course is special to me.''

Rodney Page can be reached at page@sptimes.com, golf@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8810.



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Comments on this article
by Bill Sep 2, 2008 3:46 PM
More courses should offer 4-6 months memberships for the seasonal residents. Wake up Dunedin CC
by Jay Sep 2, 2008 3:46 PM
BRAD: If designed properly, courses don't pollute. I'm not saying some don't, but many incorporate wetlands and sediment traps that filter runoff from fertilizers and chemicals. Bacteria eats this residue. Proper use of chemicals is a non-factor.
by Billy Sep 2, 2008 3:46 PM
Yes, it is a shame that the course at Quail Hollow has sunk to the level it is now, but I remember the first time I laid my eyes on the course, it was worse. Over the last 15 years, some TLC was put into this wonderful area. Save "The Quail"
by Jimmy D Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM
One polluting,illegal immigrant employing golf course down,many more to go.
by Captain Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM
Hey Brad, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Golf courses are not the major polluters of the environment. Next time do some homework so your next statement will not look so ignorant.
by Eric Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM
You want to talk about a goat farm??? Try Tarpon Woods...used to be nice (10 years ago)....new owners let it become one helluva goat farm....GUARANTEED most expensive goat farm, to boot....
by Mary Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM
great. MORE condos.
by Mike Aug 30, 2008 2:36 PM
I'm so sick of seeing all of these businesses blame the economy for their mishaps. Guess what? In a down economy - ADVERTISE. And make sure you offer quality.
by Rick Aug 30, 2008 2:32 PM
Ahh, but AirCo does have those 32 oz. drafts ...
by JWE Aug 29, 2008 6:44 PM
If anybody thinks the economy is not impacting play then, you just haven't been paying attention. It's gas, food, doctor's bills, and groceries against the price of a round of golf. With wages at 1999 levels, it's hard to afford golf in 2008.
by dlf Aug 29, 2008 6:44 PM
The course was purchased by a Michigan company that wanted to footprint over 600 homes on the land. The county objected to the footprint size. They let the course deteriorate pending further negotiations. I'll take the course over 600 homes!
by Phill Aug 29, 2008 4:09 PM
maybe Bush can drill for oil on the closed courses. If he can't find any he can drill for solar energy.
by Good Bill Aug 29, 2008 4:09 PM
Hey Bad Bill, You seem not like lady golfers. What cave did you ooze out from?
by Troy Aug 29, 2008 3:50 PM
Why didn't you interview the owners instead of someone who get her info second-hand? You know management never is square with its employees.
by farmer Aug 29, 2008 3:49 PM
Who let the goats out!
by Brett Aug 29, 2008 3:46 PM
Quail Hollow charged 15$ to play in the afternoon. Plantation 25$. Lake Jovita cheapest rate is 45$. Not all golfers are elitist. The average player can't afford to play as frequently and average courses can't afford the maintenance due to less play.
by DON Aug 29, 2008 3:42 PM
THE COURSES CHARGE WAY TO MUCH FOR WINTER GOLF. THEN THEY EXPECT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE YEAR ROUND TO KEEP THERE COURSES RUNNING DURING THE OFF SEASON. SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE. $20 OFF IN PRIME WORKS GREAT.POLK CO GOOD PRICES ALL YEAR.
by CGPIII Aug 29, 2008 3:35 PM
Good riddance, most of these courses treat Florida golfers like crap, only catering to the snowbirds. Fl golfers are what keep these courses going during the summer, but they still jack prices up on us during the winter. At some courses the people are rude and disrespectful. Anybody with an Fl driver license should pay the same fees all year around. Here are some that I have had bad experiences at: Tides, Dunedin, and Landsbrook, hope you go bankrupt.
by Tom Aug 28, 2008 7:56 PM
Managed QH for approximately 15 years; plenty of play; great course; good layout; golf-knowledgeable owners. 199Os ownership caused demise of QH; taking all $ out and no $ back into course led to sale to developers who had no good golf intentions.
by mickee Aug 28, 2008 5:15 PM
Itappears all the negative comments are from non golfers. I just took up the sport last year after recovering from cancer ( I'm 60yrs young) and this is the best sport I have ever played as It gets me out in the fresh air and I will be able to play f
by Pete Aug 28, 2008 4:15 PM
You conservationists need to read a little more. Golf courses have been PROVEN to be good for the enviorment, time and time again. Ignorance.
by Bob Aug 28, 2008 4:03 PM
Golf courses create O2, filtrate large amounts of water, are home to many species of animals, and are using mostly organic compounds now. Get a life BRAD AND ENOUGH. TONY from Bellair, then how come your greens died big guy. TWICE i n 2 years,snob.
by Joe Aug 28, 2008 3:53 PM
I agree Pete..my golf schedule is the same as yours, and I have lived here all my life, have paradise card & even have a rental house in Wesley Chaple & Never heard of it. TIDES-HORRIBLE. JOE-I played LJ about 3 months ago it was in great shape then!
by Tom Aug 28, 2008 3:00 PM
All courses are being effected not just the goat farms like East Bay and Tides. And for the green people who are bashing golf courses, do a little research. Golf courses are great for the envior.
by Grimey Aug 28, 2008 2:26 PM
The employees at Rocky Point treat golfers horribly. I can't wait for that place to go under. Somebody should slip that Starter one of the clubhouse's egg salad sandwiches. Maybe he'll wise up.
by Sal Aug 28, 2008 1:01 PM
Way too much water being used on the courses. We need to find a better way!
by Tricksonu Aug 28, 2008 12:29 PM
Darren, do you play poker? I would take your money just like the seller who took a premium from you for golf course views that were not guaranteed.
by Joanne Aug 28, 2008 11:32 AM
Wow, what a lot of negativity. CCC has a wonderful facility, location and staff. Try it. During the summer, the courses can get beat up by the weather and bad golfers. If you are a pro, play elsewhere. Otherwise, don't complain. Life is short.
by Mitch Aug 28, 2008 11:32 AM
Wow you communist golf haters make me want to throw up. Close down a private business and build a park? Is this some kind of joke? You make me sick. Let me guess, you're voting for Obama. Memo to all loons - leave the bay area.
by Pete Aug 28, 2008 11:32 AM
I play golf every Sunday. I travel all around visiting as many different courses as I can. I have the paradise discount golf card and play the clubs that are on it usually. I've lived here 7 years and never heard of Quail Hollow. Maybe advertise?
by BRAD Aug 28, 2008 11:31 AM
Golf courses pollute more than any industry in florida, maybe thy can build more unsold homes on the land .
by Bad Bill Aug 27, 2008 4:29 PM
hey lady golfer quit golf
by Ray III Aug 27, 2008 4:24 PM
I can't believe we didn't hear from Airco, that place is also a goat ranch, you talked with all the others. AirGoat.
by lady golfer Aug 27, 2008 4:14 PM
My last two times at Rogers Park I swore I would not go back, my money is as good as the next guy but they need some help on being girl friendly. I always spend money at the turn also. Their loss , glad to see the print on this.
by Tim Aug 27, 2008 4:14 PM
If you took the flags away CCC would be an instant goat ranch.
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