Victim: Jon Wayne Joseph (killed)
The accused: John Orr


Jon Wayne Joseph

White male

Age at time: 63

Weapon: unarmed

Victim photo: Collier County Sheriff's Office, 2005


John Orr

White male

Age at time: 37

Weapon: knife


Defendant photo: Collier County Sheriff's Office, 2011

Case type:
Argument turned violent




Case year:

Location details: In a neighborhood street in Naples, Collier County, on Oct. 02, 2011

What happened: John Orr, 37, stabbed a 63-year-old Naples man, Jon Wayne Joseph, 75 times. Orr claimed he did it in self-defense because Joseph was on top of him, bashing his head into the ground, gouging his eyes and threatening to kill him. But prosecutors argued that the location of blood stains and Orr's lack of wounds ran counter to his claim. Most of the blood on Orr's body was near his armpit, suggesting he had the victim in a headlock as he repeatedly stabbed. The violent attack was preceded by an argument and by Joseph ramming his bicycle into Orr as he walked through the Lake Park neighborhood. Joseph was unarmed.

The outcome: Judge denied immunity, saying the blood spatter evidence did not support the defendant's claim. Orr's defense attorney said seeking a "stand your ground" hearing was " opportunity to have an early test of this case and see what the state had. Now we know exactly what the state's theory is and we'll be prepared to beat that." A trial is pending.

Investigating agency: Naples Police

Case decision made by: Judge

Trayvon Martin’s death became controversial because circumstances leading up to the shooting cast doubt on who was to blame. The Tampa Bay Times reviewed other “stand your ground” cases for similar circumstances. The Times relied on available information, some of which may not tell the whole story. When the situation was unclear, that was noted.

Yes No Unclear/

Did the victim initiate the confrontation?


Was the victim armed?


Was the victim committing a crime that led to the confrontation?


Did the defendant pursue the victim?


Could the defendant have retreated to avoid the conflict?


Was the defendant on his or her property?


Did someone witness the attack?


Was there physical evidence?


Source: Fort Myers News-Press, Oct. 4, 2011.

Source: Naples Daily News, March 6, 2012. Link to original source

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Case last updated: Aug. 10, 2013